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I thought AGL was on the cutting edge of renewables?

I thought AGL was on the cutting edge of renewables?

I thought AGL was on the cutting edge of renewables?

Starter

I find it very strange that AGL puts itself up as a contemporary energy supplier on the cutting edge of the renewables industry, with all the very latest technologies and MO's and yet is planning to install a new fossil fuel infrastructure into an Internationally designated Ramsar wetland. It has been scientifically proven that wetlands sequester 40 times more carbon than even rain forests do. Your Westernport FSRU proposal seems very obvious hypocrisy to me, big corporations like AGL threatening environmental values is no longer the flavour of the month in case you hadn't noticed. Real values are to do with what we can do to mitigate climate change, not add to carbon emissions! 

Obviously AGL is living in a sort of echo-chamber of self-congratulatory profit-at-any-cost bubble. 

However much you green-wash us with what seem to be inadequate environmental reports, once you compromise this wetland it is irreversible, the dye will be cast. A hugely important natural resource will be lost and you will find yourselves with a shrinking customer base very quickly. 

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Re: I thought AGL was on the cutting edge of renewables?

In theory and rhetoric, yes, but in practice, no

Re: I thought AGL was on the cutting edge of renewables?

AGL  is not on the cutting edge of renewables at all, pity.  About the statement  "It has been scientifically  proven that wetlands sequester 40 times more  carbon than than even rainforests do..."  This is basically why:  Conservation and Restoration Protects coasts from storms and some  pollution and  storing   blue carbon when the ecosystems  are intact. Blue carbon is the carbon stored in coastal and marine ecosystems eg  mangroves,tidal marshes  and  seagrasses.  These eosystems, sequester and  store large  quantities   of blue carbon in both the plants and the sediment  below.  For  example, over 95% of the carbon in  sea grass meadows is stored in the sods.  Blue sink carbon storage must be restored  and  protected to lower green house emissions, to be stored not degraded or destroyed.  When degraded or destroyed,these ecosystems emit the carbon  they have stored for  even  past centuries,   into the   atmosphere and  oceans which then becomes SOURCES OF GREENHOUSE GASES.  How does AGL get around this catastrophic environmental scientifically proved concern in  the  light   of global warming, heat  waves,  fires and   droughts??    

Re: I thought AGL was on the cutting edge of renewables?

Sparky

Its pretty obvious they make smoke and play mirrors-smoke from burning hydrocarbons and mirrors to deceive and deflect.This project is really GROSS  in its abuse of critically endangered and valuable ecosystems and disrespect for future generations.This is what the kids march against  climate were asking us to STOP!!!

Re: I thought AGL was on the cutting edge of renewables?

Sparky

And they continue to spruik gas as a clean fossil fuel, when they should be encouraging their 1.4 million gas customers to change to renewables especially solar hot water which uses most of the gas. I would like to see some leadership from AGL and give people incentives to change to solar hot water.

Re: I thought AGL was on the cutting edge of renewables?

AGL Employee

Hi @WP_wetlands,

 

We’d just like to apologise for the delay in addressing your enquiry – we have received a large number of complex and detailed questions that we need to discuss with a few specialists.

 

This is not the way we want to deal with community concerns and we’re working to be more responsive in the future.

 

We’ll respond to your question shortly.

 

Thanks,

Lachlan

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Re: I thought AGL was on the cutting edge of renewables?

AGL Employee

Hi @WP_wetlands,

 

We understand your concern. We operate the country’s largest private renewable electricity generation portfolio. We also operate the largest coal portfolio in Australia, so we realise we are integral to the move out of non-renewable energy.

 

We envisage an ongoing role for gas to meet peak and intermittent demand. Over time technology will evolve to improve battery storage but for the foreseeable future, gas will continue to be an important part of the energy mix.

 

For us, gas is an enabler of energy transition. Over 80 per cent of electricity produced in Australia is sourced from the combustion of fossil fuels. Given the sheer scale, decarbonising the generation sector is likely to take several decades of replacing the existing generation fleet with low-emissions substitute technology such as solar and windfarms. To deliver reliable and sustainable energy at the lowest cost possible requires renewable energy from wind and solar combined with more flexible energy sources, like quick-start gas generation, that can be turned on whenever renewables are not available or don’t meet demand.

 

This mix of technologies can replace AGL’s Liddell coal plant when it closes, reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 7.5 million tonnes of CO2 equivalent per annum. Reliable gas supply is a critical component of this replacement plan.

 

AGL have an obligation to provide energy to our 1.4m gas customers. As an energy company, people rely on us to ensure a reliable and affordable supply of gas to their homes and businesses.

 

As Australia and AGL transition to a decarbonised electricity network, the national grid requires backup for periods where intermittent renewables aren’t generating the required supply.

 

AGL is retiring its fleet of coal fired power stations, with the first closure being Liddell in 2022, Bayswater in 2035, and Loy Yang A in 2048.

 

The proposed project is still in the feasibility stage. The AGL Board have also yet to decide to fund the proposed project. A final investment decision will not be made until the final EES assessment is complete.